So you’ve seen the Pew survey, that shows that, among other things, atheists and agnostics tend to know a lot about religious doctrines and practices. Of particular interest to me in the ensuing discussions was Larison’s distinction between academic religious knowledge and lived religious experience. It’s simply not all that surprising that a religious believer who grew up with her faith culturally would not have high-level academic knowledge of the particulars of it. High-level academic knowledge is for Jesuits and converts. (Mutatis mutandis, natch.)
But it also speaks to a broader puzzle, especially regarding the recent games in the press and in blogs concerning Islam. Any fool can Google up a copy of a religious text and pull out verses to prove almost anything; the connection between disinterested academic discourse about the interpretation of a passage, breezy bloggy interpretations, and the experiences and beliefs of the average believer will wildly diverge (and may be indistinguishable from other cultural practices.)
In any case, it’s unfair to talk about the Pew results without offering an explanation of why atheists and agnostics tend to be well-informed about religion. My ex recto position: atheists tend to be highly educated; highly educated people tend to run into courses on world religions; and, it is also, in my experience, a common trait among the highly educated to have extraordinarily good memories for trivia. My knowledge of the Noble Eightfold Path is tucked somewhere between the book of Daniel and the Star Trek episode where Picard has to communicate in literary metaphors. And indeed, the results mention educational attainment as one thing that correlates with better academic religious knowledge; but apparently with that held constant, atheists still retain more religious knowledge.
Revised theory: the trivia gene eats God.


13 comments
September 29, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Graham J.
Sokath, his eyes uncovered!
September 29, 2010 at 3:48 pm
micah
It’s also worth noting that the Pew survey split atheists/agnostics apart from “none in particular”, and didn’t find very many of the former. Since the “none in particular” people did about average on the quiz, it looks to me like those who are really willing to proclaim their atheism or agnosticism know more about religion, while their “softer” apatheist brethren — who might have been lumped into the atheist pool with a different polling methodology — know less.
September 29, 2010 at 4:30 pm
Davis X. Machina
and the Star Trek episode where Picard has to communicate in literary metaphors.
Oooh, I love that one. Hardly a humanities class where you can’t use it somweheres….
September 29, 2010 at 5:25 pm
dana
Temba, his arms wide!
apatheist
I wish I’d thought of that word.
September 29, 2010 at 5:34 pm
Urk
I think also that, depending on where you grow up, atheism/agnosticism is very often a conscious choice that requires some thinking through and some rhetorical defense. that means generally knowing more about religion in high school than the folks that are telling you you’re going to hell do.
September 29, 2010 at 6:34 pm
grackle
At the most, the survey has 29 questions that have anything to do with religious knowledge at all, and almost all of those are about Christianity. I fail to see how it could measure anything, except as Dana points out, a bit of trivia. Also agreed on the distinction between experiential and academic.
September 29, 2010 at 9:03 pm
Bucky
You state that “atheists tend to be highly educated” and decide that the reason they know more about religion is that they know more trivia.
Perhaps, instead, the more educated you are about religion the more likely you are to realize it is just all a bunch of mythical bullshit?
September 29, 2010 at 9:26 pm
nick
I think athiests tend to know a lot about religion is so they can pwn mindless adherents in conversation.
September 29, 2010 at 11:53 pm
vigon
It’s not absolute; keep in mind that many of the most fervently religious people delight in reciting their holy books and meticulously (they think) following religious prescriptions. Some do it just because they like/respect/feel obligated to memorize the texts; others use it to one-up less absorptive peers or to construct high horses for themselves.
On The Other Hand, my trivia sense killed my belief. Long paragraph. I remember the exact moment that I broke my youthful (Catholic) faith. I had dressed to serve as an altar boy and was waiting for Mass to start. As it happened, I was sitting there reading Exodus, and just grooving right along with it. I was young, but I understood well enough that there would always be exceptions to the big rules — don’t kill, don’t steal, and all the rest, unless by not sinning a worse consequence would arise. So, I got right past the big stuff without my alarm bells ringing. Then, I got into the minutiae. Specifically, I got to the “no altars of hewn stone” bit — Exodus 20:something. Then, I started thinking. “That’s easy. Get a big flat rock or some wood, drag it inside, boom, you’ve got an altar. Simple, austere [the padre liked that word], reverent.” Whoops, no, we had a big, carved marble altar front-and-center. It was up a step, too, despite the very next line in Exodus. We went up and down that thing all the time, even during mass, when God was supposed to be even more present than normal (I wasn’t up to parsing the omni- concepts yet, really). Hewn stones and a six-inch step. It’s a pathetic little niggle that the old Padre probably could have rationalized away reasonably well, but that’s when it happened for me. Suddenly, the whole shebang was off-kilter. Everyone was out there, devoutly singing and praying and kneeling and standing, and I wanted to scream. I got through mass, swallowed my cracker, then never volunteered for service again. I leaned away from attending mass after that, quit the evening religious schooling, and muddled my way on to firm atheism over the next five or six years before college.
To be clear, my atheism today isn’t based on that; it’s inter alia based on the lack of evidence for gods. However, I can honestly say that trivia killed my faith.
September 30, 2010 at 6:55 am
Dave X
So, does this then mean that the argument that Hitchens, Dawkins, and the other NewAtheists don’t understand modern theology adequately is bogus?
September 30, 2010 at 10:27 am
Bourgeois Nerd
Shaka, when the walls fell down!
Dave X: Well, one would have to concede first that modern theology really has much to do with religion as it is understood by more than a vanishingly small part of its adherent before you even got to that argument.
September 30, 2010 at 10:56 am
dana
Plus, what was asked here was mostly on the level of trivia. Knowing that Mother Theresa was Catholic and that school teachers can teach world religions isn’t properly the content of theology.
October 1, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Herbert Browne
@vigon, the Catholics lost me in a similar fashion around 11 years of age… when I could not equate missing Mass to murder (the old ‘mortal/venial’ dance).
reRevised theory: We are what we eat? ^..^