Historians consult sources that record past events, dismantle these sources into statements of fact, then reassemble these atoms into a synthesis of past events allegedly superior to the constituent sources. In the process we make many decisions: which sources to consult, which facts to distill from them, which facts to cull from the distillate and what emphasis to place on any of them. How do we make these decisions?
In October 1910, Carl L. Becker published “Detachment and the Writing of History” in the Atlantic Monthly, to reckon with this question.1
He began with the complaint of a non-historian about the Cambridge Modern History that “of fruitful generalization, there was little indeed, no effort having been made, apparently, to reduce the immense mass of facts to principles of universal validity.” Becker observed,
You cannot disconcert the orthodox historian of our day by saying he has got a great mass of facts together without knowing what to do with them: if the truth of them cannot indeed be questioned, he will know very well what to do with them: he will put them into a book. But imagine the sentiments of the authors if Professor Minot had said that ‘the beautifully coördinated generalizations, with which the Cambridge Modern History is packed, are most stimulating and suggestive.’ Their chagrin would have been immense!
Which is to say that on Becker’s account the historian of 1910 was far more likely to believe that “the business of the historian is to ‘get the facts’” than that he was then to do anything much with the facts. Detachment—a scientific detachment—was the profession’s ideal.
But, Becker went on, it’s not actually easy—or, in fact, possible—to exhibit true detachment from history: “But, in truth, the historical fact is a thing wonderfully elusive after all, very difficult to fix, almost impossible to distinguish from ‘theory,’ to which it is commonly supposed to be antithetical.”
After a nice blockquote from Nietszsche, who describes the perfectly detached man as a “self-polishing mirror”, Becker gets down to the problems at hand.
(1) How do we define a fact? Becker says, “The historical reality is continuous, and infinitely complex; and the cold hard facts into which it is said to be analyzed are not concrete portions of the reality, but only aspects of it”—and to perceive these aspects requires that we draw on our own experience, thus necessarily contaminating any facticity or historicity the thing in question is supposed to have.
Becker uses the example of a statement to the effect that Senators stabbed Julius Caesar in the senate-house at Rome.
As I read, a mental picture is at once formed…. But it is not the statement alone that enables me to form the picture: my own experience enters in. I have seen men and rooms and daggers, and my experience of these things furnishes the elements of which the picture is composed. Suppose me to know nothing of the ancient Roman world; my picture would doubtless be composed of the senate-chamber at Washington, of men in frock coats, and of bowie-knives, perhaps. It is true, the picture changes as I read more of the Roman world. Yet at each step in this transformation, it is still my own experience that furnishes the new elements for the new picture. New sources enable me to combine the elements of experience more correctly, but experience must furnish the elements to select from. The ‘facts’ of history do not exist for any historian until he creates them, and into every fact that he creates some part of his individual experience must enter.
Our experience thus colors our perception of the facts—but more, it informs our selection of the facts. Becker says, for example we do not admit the occurrence in the past of events we consider impossible now—i.e., miracles. “We must,” he says, “have a past that is the product of all the present.”
The presence of the present in any human perception of the past means that “there is no unit fact in history … the facts are only mental images … then, it must be very difficult to assert a fact without thereby making a synthesis.”
(2) How do we proceed to make a synthesis? Becker raises Fred Fling’s citation of Heinrich Rickert: that we choose facts that are unique, which have value on account of their uniqueness, which are causally connected, and which reveal unique change or evolution.
Aha, Becker says. But what about that concept of “value”? Isn’t that sneaking in your interpretation by the back door? Well, yes: we want to explain something, and certain facts are said to have value because they explain that thing. But in the definition of that thing, we already define the kinds of facts we’re looking for. Becker uses the example of Luther and the Reformation: is Luther a fact of essential value in explaining the Reformation? Depends what you mean by the Reformation, of course.
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Here Becker takes what I regard as a fascinating tour through the interpretation of monastic life. We used to say, Becker notes, that men sought the monastic life for love of God. But we no longer regard such passion as sufficient explanation, so we see monasteries now as economic institutions—they served the purposes of wayside inns, for example, and “lack of inns” explains the proliferation of monasteries and monks clustering to them. But in this interpretation we don’t have any use for the true ascetic—Becker cites St. Simeon Stylites—so he gets written off as plain nuts.
That’s not the fascinating part, this is: Becker then says, but to a child—who has his or her own concept of what’s a fact with value—the likes of St. Simeon are going to stand out. A child is
unpatriotic enough to prefer the winged gods of Greece to John Smith or Daniel Boone. Seven-league boots and one-eyed men, impossible ladies and knight-errant without purposes, St. Simeon Stylites standing, solemn and useless, at the top of a pillar,—from these he is not detached.
Becker leaves this point here, but it contains a potential we might want to revisit later.
He sums up this section by saying not only that the theory, the concept, the interpretation does precede the facts, but that it must, it is inherent in the operation of human intellect.
It is the concept that determines the facts, not the facts the concept… Instead of ‘sticking to the facts,’ the facts stick to him, if he has any ideas to attract them; and they will stick to him to some purpose only if his ideas are many, vivid, and fruitful. Complete detachment would produce few histories, and none worth while; for the really detached mind is a dead mind, lying among the facts of history like unmagnetized steel among iron filings, no synthesis ever resulting, in one case or the other, to the end of time.
Consider the trained historian, intent on studying the sixteenth century. Before him are the analyzed sources—the ‘facts’—neatly arranged in cases. He begins thumbing the cards, reading the statements, taking in the facts. Doubtless he says to himself:—
This fact is unique, important because unique, causally connected; I will therefore set it aside to be wrought up into my final synthesis.
No such thing. As he goes over and over his cards, some aspects of the reality recorded there interest him more, others less; some are retained, others forgotten; some have power to start a new train of thought; some appear to be causally connected; some logically connected; some are without any perceptible connection of any sort. And the reason is simple: some facts strike the mind as interesting or suggestive, have a meaning of some sort, lead to some desirable end, because they associate themselves with ideas already in the mind; they fit in somehow to the ordered experience of the historian. This original synthesis … is only half deliberate. It is accomplished almost automatically. The mind will select and discriminate from the very beginning. It is the whole ‘apperceiving mass’ that does the business, seizing upon this or that new impression and building it into its own growing content. As new facts are taken in, the old ideas or concepts, it is true, are modified, distinguished, destroyed even; but the modified ideas become new centres of attraction.
That is the point in short: Becker renders a historian-specific version of William James’s proposition that “The trail of the human serpent is thus over everything.”
Becker’s conclusion very lightly makes a critical point, without driving it home too deeply: the value of detachment, because it is as he writes in possession of the field, shapes the history written because it shapes the facts collected. The historian prizing his detachment seeks facts that allow him to observe historical actors doing “a certain amount of good in a bad way”. Other kinds of facts—facts like, perhaps, St. Simeon Stylites—get left out. Detachment itself is a framework that determines the permissible facts, which leads to a certain kind of history—maybe not the best. “The state of mind best calculated to find out exactly what happened is perhaps incompatible with a disposition to care greatly what it is that happened; and whatever value the notion of detachment may have just now, the time may come—there have been such times in the past—when it is more important that every one should care greatly what happens.”
More whimsically, perhaps, but not less importantly, I think, the goal of detachment denies the child’s view Becker evoked in the middle of the essay. And it is as children—or in the way of children, appreciating the marvelous—that most people who take up any interest in history do so.
1UPDATED to provide full link, thanks to andrew. The essay is reprinted in the collection of the same title.



38 comments
March 13, 2009 at 11:37 am
Anderson
So, did Veight’s expression change, or not?
… It seems that “detachment” is backwards from what Becker is talking about, unless I’m just misunderstanding the piece:
we no longer regard such passion as sufficient explanation, so we see monasteries now as economic institutions—they served the purposes of wayside inns, for example, and “lack of inns” explains the proliferation of monasteries and monks clustering to them.
This is exactly what Becker identified when he talked about Caesar’s assassination — we understand the past by relating it to our experiences, and few of us can relate to a zealous St. Simon, whereas our civilization makes it easy to reduce monasticism to “show me the money.”
Real “detachment” is an effort to escape one’s own head and take other people on their own terms, at least at an initial phase of the interpretation. It’s can’t be done, of course, but we at least should *try* to resist reflexively “detaching” historical actors from their own understandings and replacing theirs with ours.
March 13, 2009 at 11:41 am
eric
It’s can’t be done, of course, but we at least should *try*
Becker doesn’t seem to think so.
March 13, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Anderson
Well, to that extent, Becker’s beating a straw horse, because no one actually does what he’s talking about — assembing petits faits with no eye to value. Value is always already there, influencing our selection.
So the issue isn’t whether we’re going to be influenced in what we find significant; the issue is whether we simply impose ourselves on the “facts,” or whether there’s a dialogue — whether the facts also change *us*. The question isn’t much different, that I can see, from literary interpretation.
Cf. Nietzsche, of whom one could quote a dozen relevant passages, but I was reminded of this from Twilight of the Idols:
To study “from nature” seems to me to be a bad sign: it betrays submission, weakness, fatalism; this lying in the dust before petit faits is unworthy of a whole artist. To see what is — that is the mark of another kind of spirit, the anti-artistic, the factual.
Becker is buying into Nietzsche’s rhetoric here, which goes to Nietzsche’s horror of passivity, of being the *object* of the will to power rather than an interpreting *subject*.
March 13, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Barbar
I’m probably missing something, but:
Someone whose childlike interest in history stems up from imagining “What was it like to be in history?” will want to try to resist reflexively detaching historical actors from their own understandings, because those understandings are precisely what constitute “being in history.”
Looking for actors who do a “certain amount of good in a bad way” seems like an obviously half-assed detachment to me.
March 13, 2009 at 12:28 pm
eric
Value is always already there, influencing our selection.
That’s Becker’s point. Becker also quite clearly thinks the facts will change us; see the paragraph right before I say, “That is the point in short”.
Where I think you’d part company from Becker is your insistence that we try to do something we cannot, by your admission, do. Why should we try, knowing that it’s impossible? Why should we try, knowing that it will allow unconscious biases to inflect our selection?
March 13, 2009 at 12:29 pm
eric
Looking for actors who do a “certain amount of good in a bad way” seems like an obviously half-assed detachment to me.
Seems like to Becker, too.
March 13, 2009 at 12:44 pm
Barbar
Why should we try, knowing that it will allow unconscious biases to inflect our selection?
This seems like a odd fatalism to me. Becker’s argument can refer to every endeavor to gain knowledge: our preconceptions and our biases will always affect the outcomes. And yet I think that human knowledge has increased over time, despite the intrinsically flawed processes we use to pursue such knowledge.
It sounds like he’s asking why should scientists pretend that there is an objective reality, when everyone knows that science is a subjective social process. The answer is that the effort leads to better outcomes.
March 13, 2009 at 12:45 pm
eric
I don’t think Becker’s objections apply to science. They apply to the scientistic pretense in history.
March 13, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Vance
With regard to Simeon, does he mention Gibbon? Snippet view suggests not. In any case, G more or less makes Becker’s point — his Simeon is basically nuts, little more than a way to show off his own “detachment” or anticlericalism. (Well-written, tho’.)
March 13, 2009 at 12:52 pm
eric
Gibbon doesn’t come in via Simeon, but he does get mentioned in another swipe at History (Becker quotes the chap who says a Visigoth getting his head knocked in might have thought he was having a bad day, but no, he was making History, for Gibbon has written it down.)
March 13, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Barbar
Looking for actors who do a “certain amount of good in a bad way” seems like an obviously half-assed detachment to me.
Seems like to Becker, too.
But there are better (if not perfect) detached approaches. “Good” and “bad” are moral terms that can be applied with more or less context, with more or less awareness of the goals, values, and knowledge of historical figures.
March 13, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Barbar
I don’t think Becker’s objections apply to science. They apply to the scientistic pretense in history.
I suspect you may be giving science too much credit.
March 13, 2009 at 1:03 pm
JPool
Wait, I thought detachment was what allowed us to forget where we put the kids.
This is really interesting stuff and I need to go back and reread it when I’m less fuzzy and distracted. It’s been too long since I read Novick’s monster tome. I wonder how he fits in there.
March 13, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Anderson
Where I think you’d part company from Becker is your insistence that we try to do something we cannot, by your admission, do. Why should we try, knowing that it’s impossible?
Well, I admit succumbing to hyperbole there. The strong claim to “stuck-in-one’s-own-headedness” probably ends up in some sort of de Manian aporia.
Take Proust’s spin on it: you never really know the person you love, you only love an image you’ve created in your own mind. We can appreciate the truth in this. Yet it’s also true that we do sometimes learn something about the loved one, and even that the loved one learns something about us (and teaches us about it, if we’re lucky).
The historian is not reduced to “everything’s partial and partisan, so the issue isn’t The Way It Really Was, the issue is how can I assemble these facts into something that serves my own purposes.” The historian can try to reality-test, discover, and counter his own prejudices.
Nietzsche criticized this “will to truth,” but I think he risked inflating an interesting ethical critique into a systematic principle. Or maybe I’m just a nihilist by N’s lights.
This blog mocks Amity Shlaes for getting the New Deal wrong. Is the criticism *really* that she’s just a poor rhetorician and isn’t spinning the facts well enough?
March 13, 2009 at 2:14 pm
StevenAttewell
Anderson – “Becker’s beating a straw horse, because no one actually does what he’s talking about” is not correct. If you check out Peter Novick’s “That Noble Dream,” you’ll see that the dominant training in history was absolutely committed to objective understandings and methods of history and that Becker was fighting an epic battle on behalf of Progressive historians against the established leaders of the discipline that nearly got him canned.
As Novick points out, historians really did believe in objectivity, and it went beyond a mere unrealistic attitude towards method. The dominant philosophy of American history was that historians should write history as the great Von Ranke intended, “eigentlich.” Eigentlich means either [history] as it actually was, or alternatively [history] in the spirit of the time. The first generation of American historians took the first interpretation, and committed themselves to assembling objective facts that would allow them to write history as it happened. As a result of collective research, they would then be able to know all of the recorded past as an entire, complete, and unchanging edifice, the literal and Platonic Truth of human experience. The profession of history would for all intents and purposes, cease to exist as more than the chroniclers of recent history.
This had certain negative professional implications: First, historians avoided working on the same topics, and preferred to parcel out topics so that they didn’t have multiple people working on the same information, since that would duplicate effort and potentially stir up conflict between interpretations, which cast doubt on the empirical purpose of the discipline.
Second, historians, as a result, avoided thinking about theirs and other people’s biases, because no good historian would ever do anything but report recorded fact as it happened. As a result, we ended up with histories that were racist, classist, sexist, homophobic, etc. The best example of this was the Dunnings school at Columbia University, which between 1886-1960 dominated the historical profession’s view of Reconstruction. This view held that blacks were inherently inferior to whites and incapable of self-government or civil rights, that the Civil War was a mistake foisted on the country by abolitionist fanatics, that Congressional Reconstruction as defined by the Civil Rights Acts, the Freedmen’s Bureau Bill, the 14th and 15th Amendments, the Voting Rights Act, and the anti-Klan Acts was an attempt by a vengeful North to punish the South, and that the resumption of all-white rule and the use of political violence by the Klan and other groups redeemed the South from barbarism. This view was written into American textbooks at every level, and only began to be challenged in the 1960s.
Third, historians for a long time didn’t try to expand their repertoire of techniques for how to find sources, interrogate and analyze documents, and so on and so forth. Progressive historians like Becker and Charles Beard gave it a shot, but they lost influence within the discipline fairly quickly after WWI made them politically unpopular, then it took nearly fifty years for historians to develop social history, histories of race and gender and sexuality, or borrow from sociology, anthropology, philosophy, literature, etc.
Barbar/Eric – it absolutely applies to science; if you look at more recent histories of science. Kuhn, Lakatos, Latour, etc. all more or less sink the idea that scientists really operate in a pure Baconian method. Scientists are just as easily trapped within the boundaries of their own social existence, and the uncritical belief in pure objectivity can really lead people astray if they don’t really question how they measure, categorize, and explain things, how they choose topics and subjects, how they go about evaluating evidence, what kind of unofficial subconscious criteria they employ, etc.
Anderson – in regards to Amity Schlaes, believing that historical interpretation is subjective is not the same thing as believing that you can lie, or falsify evidence, or ignore evidence that’s important. That’s why we require people to footnote, show their sources, why we conduct peer review, and make it a common practice to comment on articles and conference papers, and why people quite frequently criticize each other in scholarly journals. You’re allowed to draw whatever conclusions you like, but you have to report your evidence correctly so that others can check up on whether your subjective interpretations are based on all the pertinent evidence, you have to take stock of all evidence brought to your attention and defend your interpretations as having merit, otherwise your interpretations are going to be criticized as lacking in foundations, and if you make things up or steal ideas, your interpretations will be held as those of a fraud.
March 13, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Anderson
historians really did believe in objectivity
That’s not my disagreement; I don’t think they *practiced* it. Becker is half right.
March 13, 2009 at 3:17 pm
eric
Barbar/Eric – it absolutely applies to science
I think Becker’s critique differs from Kuhn’s, but I take your point.
March 13, 2009 at 3:28 pm
StevenAttewell
Anderson – really? Because Novick seems to suggest that they did try to practice it. At least in the sense that they didn’t do a lot of interrogating of their sources, they avoided a lot of interpretative methods that they felt were too close to Hegel’s “philosophy of history,” and so on. Even if they didn’t pull it off, it did have an impact on scholarship.
Eric – very true. Consensus reached on objective historical fact after all!
March 13, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Anderson
I’ll be happy to look at Novick, but I think we’re talking past each other about what degree of “objectivity” was aimed at & achieved.
The fact that you’re explaining, re: Shlaes, the Historiography 101 of how “history” works, suggests that I’m not conveying my point very well. (Cf. “stuck in one’s own head,” supra ….)
March 13, 2009 at 7:51 pm
andrew
Why should we try, knowing that it will allow unconscious biases to inflect our selection?
As if not trying would make biases conscious and keep out other unconscious ones. Admittedly, I still have never read Novick past the first 100 pages (though I remember being unconvinced by his discussion of von Ranke*) but doesn’t this come back to Haskell’s point in his review (link to page with link to large pdf? That there’s something to be said for adopting an aspiration to detachment, knowing full well we’ll fail to achievement? Maybe I should read Haskell again.
*Not that I was unconvinced that American historians held the views ascribed to von Ranke, but it seemed like they looked to von Ranke as a usable ancestor – someone to cite for authority, but not so much as guide to learn from.
March 13, 2009 at 8:02 pm
andrew
This link might lead to the full text of Becker.
March 13, 2009 at 8:05 pm
StevenAttewell
Andrew: re Von Ranke. Of course the Americans didn’t hold his views; they didn’t really understand them, and got them second-hand in Germany then brought them back to teach them. Given that Von Ranke thought that “every state is given a special moral character from God and individuals should strive to best fulfill the “idea” of their state,” and that God designs certain eras for the fulfillment of an idea, he wasn’t much of an empiricist as the Americans understood him. (Famously, Von Ranke argued that the Reformation happened in part because God designed Germany and the 17th century to be the launching place of a purer Protestant faith)
He didn’t like Hegel very much, which is true. But I would describe him as more of an empathetic historian (trying to understand what people thought/believed at the time, what the defining ideas would be that structured their world) in opposition to crude Hegelians and their inexorable march of Progress.
March 13, 2009 at 8:11 pm
andrew
Of course the Americans didn’t hold his views; they didn’t really understand them, and got them second-hand in Germany then brought them back to teach them.
Yes, that’s what was I remember being unconvincing about (what I remember) from Novick. He spends all this time explaining that they misunderstood Ranke and took from him what fit with what they apparently already thought about history, and very little time explaining where they got what they actually got what they thought about history – certainly not from von Ranke. I had the impression he was more interested in pointing out they were wrong about von Ranke than in explaining their intellectual background.
March 13, 2009 at 8:14 pm
andrew
I should proofread my comments.
(Free wordpress, why don’t you have preview?)
March 13, 2009 at 8:44 pm
essear
If this blog is to top Unfogged, it really can’t afford to let low-hanging fruit go unpicked for so long.
March 14, 2009 at 5:19 am
kid bitzer
reading thru this debate feels like watching the somme re-enacted by scare-crows: wave after wave of straw men are being sent over the top only to be murderously mowed down by the other side.
my sympathies are with becker’s imperative to synthesize, compose a narrative, pick a pathway thru the facts that interests you, and my perchance interest me.
but i can’t see why this is thought to be an affront to objectivity. no one is advocating the imperative of making shit up. provided that one does not falsify, where does the issue of objectivity even arise?
is it because objectivity is being confused with impartiality? as though a history of the civil war must be impartial as between north and south in order to be objective? that seems ridiculous, not only because the objective facts have a northern bias, but because anyone who wishes should be free to write a factual apology for the south. they will have few facts to work with, and their book will be properly slaughtered by the weight of other books that can contain, oppose, and overwhelm the slender case they made.
but partiality is not the same as non-objectivity, any more than omission is the same as fabrication. there are lots of ways of writing bad history; not all badnesses ate the same badness.
i also don’t see any force in the argument “it’s impossible to fully succeed at such-and-such; therefore we should not attempt to such-and-such.” dana and neddy will correct me, but i seem to recall that “regulative ideals” have a perfectly respectable role in ethics. why not in writing history?
then the fallback argument comes, “because your pursuit of the regulative ideal will blind you to your own deviations from it, and leave you even further from that ideal”.
to which I answer: maybe. seems like an open question whether and when and under what conditions striving to be good will make me better, or conversely make me more sanctimonious and worse. for all i know, the odds may favor striving. but without strong offs against, this is surely not a good argument against regulative ideals
but enough sanctimony from me.
March 14, 2009 at 5:22 am
kid bitzer
strong *odds* against.
damn self-correcting iphones-far worse than self-polishing mirrors.
March 14, 2009 at 6:53 am
eric
kid, you should note that Becker thinks the problem with this regulative ideal is that it produces a particular kind of history which, he strongly implies, is not very good.
March 14, 2009 at 7:16 am
kid bitzer
i have trouble figuring out the precise nature of the ideal he worries about (detachment?), and the precise nature of the badness it produces (lack of engagement? is that a defect in history qua history, or just in history qua agit-prop, or history qua spur to civic action?).
but for any situation like this, in which we see that people pursuing some regulative ideal (say, fairness) are frequently producing e.g. unfair results, there are still some more questions to be asked before we reject the ideal as a guide to practice.
e.g.: granted that people are producing pretty unfair results as they pursue the ideal of fairness, is there any reason to think that the fairness of their results would be *increased* by their dropping the ideal? if not, then maybe fairness is just hard to produce, and taking it as a regulative ideal is, on the whole, still better than not. maybe it’s just damned hard to do things perfectly –impossible, even, which is why it’s a regulative *ideal*– and yet we come closer when guided by that ideal than when not.
or e.g.: granted that people are producing pretty unfair results as they pursue the ideal of fairness, is the unfairness of their results a *product* of their having taken fairness as a regulative ideal, or is it instead the outcome of other factors, e.g. their confusing the ideal of fairness with some other ideal like equality, or their pursuing it in a confused way, or their pursuing it simultaneously with some other ideals that compete with it for their time and attention, or their simply pursuing it in a half-hearted way?
i.e., “the problem with this regulative ideal is that it produces a particular kind of history which, he strongly implies, is not very good.”
well, no; it is people who produce history in the first instance, and the fact that they produce bad history at the same time that they are espousing an ideal may be the fault of the ideal, or it may be due to them or to many other factors.
but this is all very vague on my part because i have not really got a clear sense yet of what the ideal is, and what the defects are.
March 14, 2009 at 7:19 am
eric
andrew’s quite right — his link goes to the full text (thanks, andrew).
March 14, 2009 at 7:21 am
kid bitzer
one interesting historical fact:
it surprises me that in 1910, becker could quote nietzsche in the atlantic monthly. was he acceptable in polite company? familiar?
was it only during the nazi period that nietzsche became an affront to public decency? (if it was, then people must not have been reading him carefully–even setting aside all the bits that the nazi’s made hay with, there is plenty to offend public decency in there from the start–which is how nietzsche intended it!)
if that is not an historical fact, but merely a reflection of my own ignorance of the reception of nietzsche in north america, then surely my ignorance is an historical fact.
March 14, 2009 at 10:22 am
JPool
kb,
If you want to rebuild the meaning of obectivity from the ground up, I’ll sign on and fully endorse your position. If we popularize a kind of partial objectivity, and objectivity that needs to be truthful, but doesn’t need to be “objective,” then I think your “keep trying, even though we’ll fail” position makes senes. Until that happens though, I’ve decided that the term is too loaded with presumptions of impartiality, with a necessary erasure of the self, and with commitment to false universals. I tend to prefer the terms “honesty” and “fairness” for work that recognizes its subjective strengths and limitations while still trying to avoid falsehood or distortion. The problem is that there are historians (some in my home department) who still believe that it’s the duty of historians to somehow erase themselves from their topics, narratives, and analyses. They do good work despite this, but I still think they’re wrong.
On Nietzsche, a colleague of mine, Patrick Connolly was working on the American reception of Nietzsche, but I can’t find his status or contact info at the moment. Um … I’ll let you know if I figure it out.
March 14, 2009 at 10:51 am
Standpipe Bridgeplate
Nietszsche, who describes the perfectly detached man as a “self-polishing mirror”
It’s a causal relation. Too much self-polishing results in a perfectly detached man.
March 14, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Jonathan Jarrett
I don’t want to get involved with the debate, because I’m not familiar with the works involved, but I did want to say: thankyou for posting this. The people I know who make arguments about all so-called facts necessarily being constructions in our own minds never cite further back than Hayden White’s The Content of the Form, and having a statement of the case both in clearer language and from more than seventy years earlier will be a source of great glee.
March 14, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Slandor the Besmirchinator
Too much self-polishing results in a perfectly detached man.
So that’s how it makes you blind.
March 14, 2009 at 5:32 pm
andrew
Slandor!
March 16, 2009 at 3:18 am
dave
The point of ‘objectivity’, as mused on vaguely above, is that it imparts ‘authority’. The quest of the historian for impartiality, detachment, etc etc, is in fact a quest to be able to be RIGHT – and to impose that rightness on whomsoever should query it. It’s politics all the way down…
Or is that so obvious that you were all already assuming it?
March 16, 2009 at 10:45 am
StevenAttewell
Dave – no, it’s a good point. The only thing I’d add is that in context, historians felt that their authority was weak and were asserting objectivity as a means of gaining authority.The first thing they were dealing with was a deep tradition of amateur historians in Anglo-American culture, who in the 19th century were not only numerous but were actually out-selling academic historians by a wide margin, which made academics fear that they were losing out as the voice of their profession to a bunch of untrained dilettantes. The second thing was the late 19th century fascination with science and progress – the hard sciences especially were validated as a source of objective truth, the discovery of rational and clear natural laws that ordered the universe and gave men mastery over nature (this is before the age of relativity, uncertainty, and quantum). Historians wanted to be associated with progress, and believed that if they could assemble a mountain of objective facts into a pyramid of Total History, they would be able to present civilization with a complete and total understanding of what had happened and why, giving historians authority to talk about the forces that drive human civilization and group behavior.