And I guess I’d be right now, if I said it again. Look, there are all kinds of things you can say about economists—it’s not for nothing people know what you mean when you say someone has an economist’s interpersonal skills—but with economics, as with law or any other field, if everyone says you’re wrong, you should listen. If you read any of the same blogs I do, you will know that Hillary Rodham Clinton not only doesn’t listen but is proud to let you know it:
STEPHANOPOULOS: But can you name an economist who thinks this makes sense?
CLINTON: Well, I’ll tell you what, I’m not going to put my lot in with economists….
So below, here’s what I had to say about such people four years ago. I mean, if the politicians are going to recycle old acts, can’t I recycle old comments on those acts?
Financial Times (London, England)
February 27, 2004 Friday
Sound economics requires respect for the facts: ERIC RAUCHWAY:
BYLINE: By ERIC RAUCHWAY
SECTION: COMMENT; Pg. 13
LENGTH: 779 words
Last week more than 60 distinguished scientists warned that the White House will do to natural science what it has already done to military and social science: politicise it out of all useful relation to reality. In an open letter, the Union of Concerned Scientists expressed its dismay at the Bush administration’s tendency to set aside “fact-based data” that did not support its otherwise-based policies. But science will survive President George W. Bush, just as it survived Pope Urban VIII, Galileo’s adversary. We shall have to hope the same holds true of economics, which is more vulnerable to the administration’s blithe dismissal of data.
Lately Americans have indulged in the supposition that market forces operate like gravity, working without our help. In truth, markets of any significant scale and scope rather resemble the gravity-defying machines to which we routinely trust our lives. Like aircraft, modern markets require predictable policy management based on sound, widely available information if they are to stay aloft - and as the International Monetary Fund warned this January, America’s present fiscal policy threatens to drag down the global economy. Yet the White House continues to denigrate sound economic data in preference to its intuition - and in doing so is following a disastrous precedent.
The Republican Party did not always scoff at politically neutral economic numbers: 120 years ago this year a Republican administration created the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Its first commissioner, Carroll Wright, believed fervently in the virtues of modernity, expecting that fact-based data would free policymakers from conceptual straitjackets. Informed policy aiding the growth of private industry and the wide distribution of its benefits would provide a higher standard of living, proving socialists wrong. The only enemy of economic knowledge - and of progress - was political interference. “Even when the head of (a statistical) office has been appointed for purely political reasons,” Wright declared, “the incumbent has soon realised the sacredness of his office and he has learned that to tell a statistical lie is the most harmful thing a man can do.”
Wright discovered it was insufficient not to tell lies; one had also to be permitted to tell politically uncomfortable truths. No sooner had he begun a series of price and wage data to provide factual bases for policymaking than his bureau came under attack - not least because he had the poor judgment to begin what was meant as a politically neutral project in a presidential election year. During the campaign of 1904, the BLS data endured criticism for ignoring troubled sectors of the economy and for serving the interests of the incumbent president, Theodore Roosevelt. In the political fallout and bureaucratic reshuffle that ensued, Wright gave up his job and his ambitious BLS series were discontinued.
Political attacks on such data - which turned out on later examination to be reasonably good - prevented the emergence of policy regimes based on regular observation of economic trends. Options narrowed, and a hopeful faith in self-correcting mechanisms such as the gold standard sprang up where fact-based policies might have grown. The hardening of monetary and fiscal policy into the sclerosis of the interwar gold standard regime produced disastrous results, making the 1930s depression rather greater than it need have been. This failure might have been avoided if in the 1910s US leaders had been more flexible. But to do that they would have needed greater confidence in making economic decisions based on data instead of ideology - a confidence they denied themselves by undermining the BLS.
Spurred by the first world war, the BLS began to develop new series, establishing in 1927 its monthly payroll survey of employment. Disputing BLS data became the last refuge for failed adherents of economic orthodoxy: heading into his 1932 re-election campaign President Herbert Hoover subjected Ethelbert Stewart, the BLS chief, to forcible retirement in retaliation for standing by consistently (and accurately) gloomy unemployment figures.
Mr Bush, it is often noted, has a job-loss record unmatched by any president since Hoover. Instead of learning from Hoover, Mr Bush is imitating him, declaring prosperity is just around the corner while his spokesman derides statisticians and economic modellers. It is too late to hope that this administration will restore honour and integrity to the White House economic policy process. We must have faith that its Democrat challengers show a higher regard for facts.
The writer teaches history at the University of California, Davis
Copyright 2004 The Financial Times Limited

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May 5, 2008 at 12:38 pm
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May 5, 2008 at 1:01 pm
eric
Of course, this means that if either McCain or Clinton gets to be president next, I can just recycle all my old Bush-related columns. Whereas if Obama gets in, I’ll have to write new stuff. Hmm, where does my interest lie….
May 5, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Vance Maverick
What buffaloes me about this one is that, until now, I felt that if Obama were to lose, then Clinton would be at least a strong second best — she’s a capable policy wonk, right, who knows a lot and cares about learning more, and uses knowledge to informs her decisions. Now it seems she’s choosing to pretend not to be sane in that sense. The lines are truly being drawn: in the hopes of getting the primary votes of a few more percent of the party, she’s throwing away the respect of the rest.
May 5, 2008 at 1:23 pm
eric
she’s a capable policy wonk, right, who knows a lot and cares about learning more, and uses knowledge to informs her decisions
Do you think this description fits her approach to healthcare and to the AUMF for Iraq?
May 5, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Vance Maverick
No cynicism is now beyond me. (But I did mean “inform”.)
May 5, 2008 at 1:31 pm
eric
Well, I was not being cynical, there. If I believed that those factors informed her approach to those decisions—maybe I should say, significantly informed—I would feel a lot better about her errors there.
May 5, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Vance Maverick
I mean to say, I used to think that those errors (you’re speaking of Hillarycare, right, not of the proposals from her current campaign?) had been good-faith errors, as it were, that she had made a serious effort to do a good job. Now I’m too cynical to rustle up an argument to that effect.
May 5, 2008 at 2:38 pm
eric
Yes, I was speaking of the effort she made during her husband’s administration.
May 5, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Jason B
If Hillary were trapped in a fire, and her fake skin were to burn off, which do you think would be revealed? A metal skeleton like Ahnold had in Terminator, or reptilian scales, a la the TV miniseries V?
I’m guessing scales.
May 5, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Gene O'Grady
This column was terribly unfair to Urban VIII, a cultivated and intelligent man (and, like John Paul II, an appealing failure of a pope), who was caught in forces he couldn’t control. Unlike Bernini, whom he managed to tame.
May 5, 2008 at 4:11 pm
eyeingtenure
At least she isn’t elitist. In this election, that’s what matters.
(Agreed on the Urban VIII. Gene.)
May 5, 2008 at 4:26 pm
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May 5, 2008 at 5:42 pm
eric
terribly unfair to Urban VIII
But science did, in fact, survive him.
May 5, 2008 at 7:02 pm
Gene O'Grady
Maffeo Barberini may not be a great name in the history of science, but he is a great name in the history of art, and a magnanimous personality. I was just objecting to the apparent comparison with Bush, who comprehends neither science nor art, and is smaller than a toad whereas Urban was larger than life.
On the other hand, I may have been too kind to Karol Wojtyla.
May 5, 2008 at 11:33 pm
foolishmortal
Urban did what he had to do. Mr. G insulted the papacy in no uncertain terms. If G wanted to, he could have couched his proposals in a less inflammatory fashion. But he chose not to. And so, he got fucked. Not burned, as he might have been, but jailed, for the few years of his life that remained to him. Giordano Bruno should be so lucky.
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May 8, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Beckster
One cavalier comment does not a monster make. People are extaordinarily eager to place Clinton among the likes of Bush and his administration…egregious at best. I call it a modern day witch hunt. Shame on you.
May 8, 2008 at 12:17 pm
eric
Suppose it was not just a cavalier comment—suppose it was evidence of a pattern of behavior in which the candidate prefers loyal advisors to informed ones. Would it be a witch hunt then?
May 8, 2008 at 1:31 pm
washerdreyer
One cavalier comment does not a monster make.
This makes it sound like a gaffe, as opposed to the considered position of her campaign. Since she said it, and didn’t show any inclination to take it back, and then other people who work for the campaign said it, and didn’t show any inclination to take it back, I don’t see how your “cavalier comment” interpretation holds water.
Further, no one here said she was just like George W. Bush and his administration. Instead, the post noted that her position on this particular issue was very similar to the way Bush has approached a number of issues, and that that approach is bad.
One commenter did imply that she was either a robot from the future or an alien, so I guess it’s ok to pretend that the position you’re arguing against is “Hillary is a monster.”