On January 24, 1943, Franklin Roosevelt and Winston Churchill concluded their conference at Casablanca. I have a photograph of the two of them from that meeting on the wall of my office, with the slanting sun in Roosevelt’s face and Churchill standing in shadow — I like it a great deal, as it depicts both men in what looks like genuinely companionable contemplation. I admire both of them as historical figures. Which doesn’t make me any more comfortable with one of the results of the conference: the determination to carry out combined British and American round-the-clock bombing offensives against German targets, which would include cities.
My grandfather flew a B-24 in the war as part of the Allies’ European bombing offensive. Here is his plane, shot down.
He survived the crash, was taken prisoner, and escaped: he omitted to mention to his captors that he had been born in Germany and, though he immigrated to the U.S. as a kid, he sprechened pretty well, thank you, which helped him get along through the countryside till he was back behind Allied lines. I loved him, and am proud of him and his war service, and that doesn’t make me any more comfortable with the result of the conference either.
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The British had a clear goal in bombing Germans at night, when they couldn’t pretend to see much of what they were hitting: they wanted to keep their planes and pilots in the air while exacting revenge for Nazi bombing of British cities and civilians. Arthur “Bomber” Harris referred to “the destruction of factories” as “a bonus.” And points to Harris for honesty.
The Americans maintained a squeamish commitment to daytime precision bombing — which was pretty much of a fiction, especially when partnered with British nighttime bombing. The raid on Hamburg that summer demonstrated, clearly, why: if the British get in there at night and set the city on fire, the smoke’s going to make it hard for Americans to see much in their precision targeted area (indicated on the map by a dotted line, around a lot of smoke).
I lived for a few years a short distance from “Bomber” Harris’s headquarters. I know perfectly well that if I had lived there fifty-five years earlier I would have wanted the Allies to kill as many Germans, civilians or otherwise, as they could. And that does not make me any more comfortable with the result of the conference, either.




54 comments
January 24, 2008 at 7:06 am
Greg Miller
In my opinion, “strategic bombing” is a misnomer in any case. The fact that it allows the bomb droppers to absolve themselves of the moral responsibility for the deaths they cause. I discussed this yesterday on my website in regard to “Operation Linebacker II,” better known as the “Christmas Bombing,” since yesterday was the anniversary of “peace with honor.”
January 24, 2008 at 11:04 am
Vance Maverick
I’m interested in the moral concern of the last paragraph, and this is a great example. Michael Kinsley wrote a penetrating op-ed (can’t find it now) on the limitations of good intentions in this regard: even the most thoughtful, consistent, self-aware “progressive” today will come to seem morally blind, or wrong, with respect to criteria that become established later. (Not that this is a reason not to do the best we can!)
As you say, it seems “obvious” that Brits and Americans ought to have been able to distinguish between Germans and the German government / war machine. But it was a moment when everybody — the governments on either side, but also individuals — had a great deal invested in refusing this distinction, with respect to their own side and also the other. I’m sure I would have been swept up too.
(This may not really be an example of moral criteria progressing, in the sense Kinsley was thinking of. But I do think this conflation is more than a matter of “war mentality” — Wilsonian self-determination, etc. give some context.)
January 24, 2008 at 11:14 am
teofilo
Vance makes a good point, which is also very relevant to, e.g., slavery.
January 24, 2008 at 11:22 am
eric
There’s a very good treatment of this conundrum w/r/t slavery in Haskell’s Capitalism and the Origins of the Humanitarian Sensibility.
You have of course to resign yourself to being tagged a hand-wringing liberal weenie if you’re going to be at all morally serious about this stuff.
January 24, 2008 at 11:44 am
Ben Alpers
Actually, Vance, I think you have this moral history wrong. Most Americans–and many others in the Western democracies–reviled strategic bombing during the Spanish Civil War. The moral distinction between civilians and the government was an utterly conventional one which had to be lost for “strategic bombing” to take place. And, as Eric points out above, in the US it was never entirely lost during WWII, at least as regarded Europeans. US participation in strategic bombing was always done in daylight and rhetorical denied as “precision bombing.” In Japan, the U.S. pursued strategic bombing more openly. However, Truman’s announcement of the dropping of the first A-bomb referred to Hiroshima as “an important Japanese army base,” suggesting that the taboo on forthrightly targeting civilian populations was alive and well in 1945 even in the Pacific theater.
Even before the World War II, however, some such as Alexander de Seversky argued that bombing civilian populations was a more moral course of action than the kind of warfare the world experienced in the Great War. Strategic bombing advocates suggested that aerial bombardment would break the morale of civilian populations and quickly lead their governments to surrender, thus making war much less costly in human terms.
The advocates of strategic bombing turned out to have completely misunderstood mass psychology. During World War II, far from clambering for surrender, bombed populations tended to rally around their flags.
Nevertheless the dream of strategic bombing, outlasted World War II, and even lost much of its remaining moral stigma in the US. The atomic age presented the possibility of a new, more apocalyptic vision of strategic bombing, that reinforced the dream (now perhaps a nightmare) of a war that ended instantly.
I share Eric’s concern about the moral legacy of strategic bombing in World War II, and think that Americans have by and large failed to grapple with it. Far more attention has been spent worrying about the morality of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which seem to me to be less morally special cases than mere extensions of the kind of warfare earlier practiced in Hamburg, Dresden, and Tokyo.
Since this is an historians’ blog, it’s worth pointing out that there have been a number of excellent books on these issues, including Michael Sherry’s The Rise of American Air Power.
January 24, 2008 at 11:52 am
eric
I’m sure it won’t surprise you to know that I’ve assigned Sherry, Ben. There’s also Patterson, Guernica.
I think the fib of “precision bombing” was pretty early understood. A newsreel of the Hamburg bombing showed the city flattened and referred to “seven square miles of Hamburg’s war industries” destroyed, and referred to it as being “virtually wiped off the map.” The veil is awfully thin.
January 24, 2008 at 11:59 am
Vance Maverick
Thanks, this is really interesting. As a layman (in school in the ’70s), I too have seen much more attention paid to the A-bomb, with strategic bombing only gradually surfacing as an issue. But I agree that their priority for the argument should be reversed.
January 24, 2008 at 1:04 pm
urbino
It certainly seems the case that the American fig leaf had dried up and blown away by Feb., 1945, with the firebombing of Tokyo. One wonders, though, if that was seen in very different moral terms, due to the racial difference. That’s a fine American tradition that was still very much alive in 1945, after all.
January 24, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Grand Moff Texan
My grandfather flew a B-24 in the war as part of the Allies’ European bombing offensive.
Small world.
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January 24, 2008 at 1:18 pm
ari
Small world.
Or a big war.
January 24, 2008 at 2:05 pm
urbino
Or a world war.
January 24, 2008 at 2:23 pm
ari
Well done. I don’t usually relish playing the straight man. But I’ll make an exception in this case.
January 24, 2008 at 2:28 pm
urbino
War humor is my specialty. Keep me in mind for all your war-related parties and observances.
January 24, 2008 at 2:48 pm
bitchphd
Am I the only person on the internets whose connection to WWII is through the German side? My in laws were, respectively, an anti-aircraft gunner followed by a stint in the navy and then in the army and then as a POW, and a refugee from the eastern front.
Which is to say that I’m glad those two Germans, anyway, weren’t killed. (Actually my f-i-l always credited his survival in the war to the fact that the Americans had antibiotics.)
January 24, 2008 at 2:55 pm
ari
I’ll call you for our Memorial Day gala. Also: B, I could detail my family’s connection to WWII. But not even Urbino would be bold enough to make jokes. And we try to keep it light around here.
January 24, 2008 at 3:05 pm
bitchphd
Oh great, guilt-trip me because of my German in-laws.
January 24, 2008 at 3:17 pm
eric
I’m reasonably sure my grandfather was bombing his relations, at least some of the time. And some of my relations were in those parts of occupied Europe that the Allies were studiously not bombing. I.e., the same parts where Ari’s were. Half master-race, half chosen-people! What a mishegoss.
January 24, 2008 at 3:23 pm
ari
Half master-race, half chosen-people! What a mishegoss.
So totally your next book. Mine’s Bound by Blood, Separated in Memory: How Hannah Duston and Elizabeth Emerson Changed America.*
* As noted at Unfogged.
January 24, 2008 at 3:26 pm
eric
Memoir is so passé.
January 24, 2008 at 3:32 pm
urbino
I wonder what percentage of Allied families found themselves in your situation, Eric.
(As for me, I have no direct connection to the war. I come from religious pacifist stock.)
January 24, 2008 at 3:37 pm
eric
Probably not as many as in WWI, which followed a much longer period of international migration, while before WWII you had both immigration restriction (in the US and other New World countries) and the Depression, both of which cut down on cross-border family mixing.
January 24, 2008 at 3:39 pm
ari
I come from religious pacifist stock.
Now look who’s trying to make B feel guilty, Mr. Holier than Thou.
January 24, 2008 at 3:41 pm
urbino
I only say it because it’s true.
January 24, 2008 at 3:43 pm
ari
Fine, go ahead, twist the knife.
January 24, 2008 at 3:44 pm
eric
I come from irreligious belligerent stock.
January 24, 2008 at 3:45 pm
urbino
twist the knife
I’m not allowed. You’ll have to get some lesser, violent person to do that. Like Eric.
January 24, 2008 at 3:46 pm
eric
Oh, but depriving my poor kids of royalties is ok.
January 24, 2008 at 3:50 pm
urbino
It’s practically a calling. They’d just buy more guns with them, anyway.
January 24, 2008 at 3:52 pm
eric
I’m tempted to say my kids could beat up your kids. But your kids would probably enjoy it.
January 24, 2008 at 3:58 pm
urbino
I’ven’t got any, but if I did, I’m sure they would break forth in gouts of praise to God for using your kids to test their faith.
OTOH, I’m lapsed, so tell your kids to bring the Bactine.
January 24, 2008 at 4:01 pm
eric
One of my great-grandfathers was a man of God. I should probably be ashamed of myself.
January 24, 2008 at 4:06 pm
urbino
I’m not sure what the one has to do with the other, but: yes.
January 24, 2008 at 4:07 pm
eric
I’m going to go rend my garments. As soon as I change into cheaper clothes.
January 24, 2008 at 4:09 pm
urbino
Publican.
January 24, 2008 at 4:12 pm
eric
Time, gentleman, please.
January 24, 2008 at 4:15 pm
urbino
Sorry, no time-outs in holier-than-thou matches. It’s purely a blood sport. Spiritually speaking, of course.
January 24, 2008 at 4:17 pm
eric
I thought Dr. Urbino was a rationalist.
January 24, 2008 at 4:21 pm
bitchphd
Religious pacifists don’t make me feel guilty. My own family was mostly irreligious draft-dodgers.
My f-i-l later spent ten years in Soviet prison b/c he got caught spying for the US in Berlin. Does that redeem him a teensy bit?
January 24, 2008 at 4:34 pm
ari
Totally. Redeemed. But I’m not really the man to ask. You might need to check with Urbino.
January 24, 2008 at 4:45 pm
bitchphd
Eh, I don’t know if redemption is the issue, really. I just find the biography of his early years bizarrely fascinating. The weird intersections of moral judgment and individual action, which Americans are obsessed with, with history, which seems so easy for us to ignore, are really interesting.
January 24, 2008 at 4:47 pm
urbino
Trust me, redemption is always the issue.
January 24, 2008 at 4:52 pm
ari
He’s always watching. But I hear you. And even for the so-called victims, including my family, those same intersections are worth considering. As is redemption in many cases.
January 24, 2008 at 4:57 pm
eric
The weird intersections of moral judgment and individual action, which Americans are obsessed with, with history, which seems so easy for us to ignore, are really interesting.
I think this is why I wrote the post.
(Chorus: “there was a post?”)
January 24, 2008 at 5:07 pm
bitchphd
See, I think that the problem for the whole “remembering the victims” thing is that the entire moral judgment/individual action thing gets erased entirely b/c the entire point is that history came along and crushed all that. Which is of course part of what’s so awful about it, the fact that that’s true.
January 24, 2008 at 6:49 pm
Noah W.
I read this article on the cia.gov web site. Was this a way for the U.S. to moralize the use of the Atom bomb?
(I include below a portion of the article)
[[ {"Paths to Peace; The Information War in the Pacific, 1945" Josette H. Williams}
Stepped-Up Bombing
By noon on 28 July, OWI’s presses on Saipan were rolling with notices warning civilians to evacuate 35 Japanese cities scheduled to be bombed within the next few days. About 1 million leaflets fell on the targeted cities whose names appeared in Japanese writing under a picture of five airborne B-29s releasing bombs. Given the extent of the effort, it is extraordinary that many Americans are not aware that Japanese cities were warned prior to being bombed. Even today, members of the B-29 crews recall their fears that the warnings would make them easier targets for Japanese planes and antiaircraft artillery. However, they concurred with Gen. Curtis LeMay’s proposal at the time.10 Military newspapers featured the unprecedented action under such headlines as “B-29 Command Now Calling Its Shots” and “580 B-29s Follow Up Leaflet Warnings With 3800 Tons Of Fire And Explosives.”11 Visualize what it must have been like for people in the targeted cities to look up and see more than 100 B-29 “Superfortresses” overhead. The image lends understanding to the Allies’ decision to warn civilians, even at their own risk.
Advertising the Destruction of Hiroshima
At 2:45 a.m. on 6 August, the Allies’ B-29 “Enola Gay” left the island of Tinian near Saipan. Its primary target was Hiroshima, where the 2nd Japanese Army stood poised to defend against an expected Allied invasion of their homeland. At 8:15 a.m., the “Enola Gay” destroyed Hiroshima with a single atomic bomb.
Back on Saipan, the OWI presses were turning out leaflets that revealed the special nature of Hiroshima’s destruction and predicted similar fates for more Japanese cities in the absence of immediate acceptance of the terms of the Potsdam agreement. By 9 August, more than 5 million leaflets about the atom bomb had been released over major Japanese cities. The OWI radio station beamed a similar message to Japan every 15 minutes.
Front side of OWI notice #2106, dubbed the “LeMay bombing leaflet,” which was delivered to Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and 33 other Japanese cities on 1 August 1945. The Japanese text on the reverse side of the leaflet carried the following warning: “Read this carefully as it may save your life or the life of a relative or friend. In the next few days, some or all of the cities named on the reverse side will be destroyed by American bombs. These cities contain military installations and workshops or factories which produce military goods. We are determined to destroy all of the tools of the military clique which they are using to prolong this useless war. But, unfortunately, bombs have no eyes. So, in accordance with America's humanitarian policies, the American Air Force, which does not wish to injure innocent people, now gives you warning to evacuate the cities named and save your lives. America is not fighting the Japanese people but is fighting the military clique which has enslaved the Japanese people. The peace which America will bring will free the people from the oppression of the military clique and mean the emergence of a new and better Japan. You can restore peace by demanding new and good leaders who will end the war. We cannot promise that only these cities will be among those attacked but some or all of them will be, so heed this warning and evacuate these cities immediately.” (See Richard S. R. Hubert, “The OWI Saipan Operation,” Official Report to US Information Service, Washington, DC 1946.) ]]
January 24, 2008 at 7:28 pm
Gene O'Grady
My uncle spent a good part of WW II flying blimps out of Brazil trying to sink German submarines (that’s why they call it a world war). He and the rest of his family believed (apparently erroneously) that one of the submarine captains he was trying to sink was a second cousin. Didn’t deter him a bit.
On a related subject which picks up the start of the Iraq war, my wife’s uncle (also ethnically German) was a bombadier, I believe also on a B24. He once told us about a raid he was on to destroy the palace at Versailles because they had been tipped off that the German Staff was meeting there; unfortunately when they got there, in his words, “I was on the lead plane and the flak was so thick you could walk on it,” so the raid was aborted. He seemed genuinely disappointed at missing the honor of sending Jodl and Keitl to hell, which may be the way bombadiers preferred to think about what they were doing.
January 24, 2008 at 8:08 pm
CharleyCarp
You’re not the only one on the internet with German in-laws, Dr. B. My wife’s father was two young to take part, but 5 of her uncles fought in the war. Three died: Crete, Marseilles, and Stalingrad. Two were captured: one spent 5 years in Soviet prisons, the other picked cotton in Mississippi. The latter developed a real fondness for Americans, still strong 40 years later. My f-i-l remembers Dresden, though: the planes flew over their house (in extreme western Germany).
January 24, 2008 at 8:17 pm
ari
Ladies and gentleman: CharleyCarp! Click the link. Then give the man his due. Thanks, Charley.
January 24, 2008 at 8:26 pm
urbino
Two were captured: one spent 5 years in Soviet prisons, the other picked cotton in Mississippi.
If my parents and their siblings are any guide, the latter would give the former a close race on the Misery Index.
January 24, 2008 at 8:27 pm
urbino
CharleyCarp — thank you.
January 27, 2008 at 12:04 am
herbert browne
my dad was a pilot of B-17s in the ‘44-’45 Winter, 15th AAC… they flew out of a British base in Italy. He flew over Regenburg, Leipzig, etc while my mom & I waited in Clearwater, Fl. He never spoke about any of this until he came to visit me in Oregon, in the ’70s, when I was cutting cedar with a WWII history buff- who pounced on him at first sight- and out tumbled all these stories. (history = good!) It was a few years later that he told me how, during training, he had been afraid that “the war was going to be over before I got a chance to fight”… (he was 24). After his service he became very ill… & turned down any re-enlistment… & was unwilling to join the reserves. He said that, in hindsight, it was incredibly numbing, and left him dispirited… and he thinks, his illness was of that nature. He’s still pretty sharp- & if he lives until May will be 88. His dil’s surname (“sir name”, Dr.b?) was “Haller”… & a pretty good idea where they hailed from… sma’ wurrl… ^..^
March 6, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Robert Hodge
My Father, Lt Joseph Hodge, was a Bombadier in a B-24, flying out of Rackheath, the 467th. He passed a year ago November, and there are a lot of questions I think of now that I would like to have asked him. He flew 30 missions over Europe, fortunate to make it out. After service, he spent 35 years in the AF Reserve as an Officer. Some day I will straighten out all of his diarys and war records.
It took Dad some time before he would talk about his experiences, but when he did, it was a flood gate of information!
Rest in Peace, Dad. You did your duty!!!
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